Megan Garber
Emerson Collective Fellow, 2025
This month, 国产视频 announced the Class of 2025 国产视频 Fellows鈥攁n impressive group of 15 scholars, journalists, and filmmakers who have been selected from a large pool of competitive applicants. This year鈥檚 fellows will dive into an exciting array of topics, from immigration and prison reform to American intelligence abroad and the dynamic world of high school mariachi competitions.
Among this year鈥檚 talented fellows is journalist Megan Garber, known for her sharp analysis at the intersection of politics and culture. Her work explores the nuances of modern society with a unique perspective that challenges conventional thinking.
In this exclusive extended Q&A from The Fifth Draft鈥攖he Fellows Program鈥檚 newsletter featuring exclusive content about and from our Fellows鈥擬egan Garber gives us an exciting preview of her forthcoming project on our relentless craving for entertainment and its unsettling link to the rise of misinformation in popular culture. Dive into the Q&A to see how Garber鈥檚 keen observations and groundbreaking ideas are poised to challenge and inspire new ways of thinking about our future.
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Your Fellows project will be a book, which expands on an article you wrote for The Atlantic about how Americans鈥 , politics, and everyday life. Why did you decide to pursue the idea as a book-length project?
鈥淓ntertainment鈥 has a double meaning. In one way, it鈥檚 something people consume: the stuff we turn to for escapism, togetherness, and fun. In another way, it鈥檚 permission. We entertain arguments. We entertain ideas. The interplay between the two [arguments and ideas] captures a lot, I think, about the broader challenges Americans face right now, as the web has created so many new ways to be both passive consumers and active participants in the world. To me, that tension is important enough to warrant a book-length exploration, as along the way it captures so many other critical issues鈥攁mong them the ever-blurrier lines between reality and fantasy, fandom and political identity, the people we dismiss as characters and those we see as fully human, complicated, worthy, and real. We experience each other, ever more, through our screens, and the book will explore the consequences of this shift.
In The Atlantic article, you reference Newton Minow鈥檚 very critical description of television in 1961 as 鈥渁 vast wasteland.鈥 How would you characterize our current media landscape?
In some ways, I disagree with Minow鈥檚 diagnosis鈥攊n part because I鈥檇 be a hypocrite not to. I鈥檓 a lifelong lover of TV; as a kid growing up in a fairly small town, TV shows were part of my education, their characters expanding my social circle and their stories offering early lessons about the unruly breadth of the world. Newton Minow loved TV too, I think. But he was an idealist who believed that the medium that shaped his moment could be more and better than it was鈥攁 source not just of distraction, but also of democratic engagement. With that one little 鈥渧ast,鈥 he anticipated a lot: TVs now hang on the walls of homes like pieces of art and are carried in pockets and purses. They are, to borrow a phrase, 鈥渆verything, everywhere, all at once.鈥 Where does TV end, and life begin? I鈥檓 not fully sure. That鈥檚 partly why I鈥檓 writing the book.
You have used the phrase 鈥渂anal theatricality鈥 in your work, can you explain the concept? How do you think it plays into our current political moment?
The idea that social interaction is a performance is a very old one, but I think the current moment is changing 鈥渁ll the world鈥檚 a stage鈥 from a metaphor into a mandate. There鈥檚 no business but show business, and now the rules of the show stretch into everyday life. People now have 鈥減ersonal brands,鈥 鈥渟oft-launch鈥 new relationships on social media, and buy t-shirts proclaiming their 鈥渕ain character energy.鈥 Some鈥攎any鈥攖reat life itself as an endless performance. This theatricality expands into politics, becoming almost banal. We no longer just accept that our actors and artists will be politicians by other means; we demand it. We expect professional politicians to manage their profiles as celebrities do, offering themselves to the public through both iconography and carefully calibrated authenticity. Meanwhile, the policy decisions that actually affect people鈥檚 lives are too often relegated to the backstage.
Do you think the metaverse as it exists now has a role in the fight against populism and in the preservation of democracy, not just in fostering divisiveness?
I鈥檓 looking at 鈥渢he metaverse鈥 not just as a technological concept but as a broadly cultural one: as a desire for entertainment so wide-reaching and politically potent that it doubles as an ideology. The changes it is bringing, like those brought by the web itself, are both beneficial and problematic in ways we鈥檙e just beginning to understand. Yet the mere fact that people can now speak for themselves, using their own words, images, and voices, is a revolutionary shift. Every day, I鈥檓 dazzled by the creativity, humor, weirdness, and wisdom on display in social media鈥檚 endless talent show. When this human energy is summoned for civic engagement, it can make politics much more participatory and humane. It can enhance consciousness-raising, collective action, and other efforts that have been key to the justice movements of the past. Essentially, it can turn a group of people into a public, something both elemental and crucial in a democracy.
Who do you see as the audience for your book? What impact do you want it to have on the individual, on policy?
The transformations the web has brought affect every American, each in their own way. Because of this, I think the potential audience for the book could be as broad as 鈥渁nyone who believes that reality is worth fighting for.鈥 And I hope the book鈥檚 pages can bring some clarity to a cultural moment that can feel sometimes dizzyingly chaotic. Words are the atomic units of democracy: we can鈥檛 create good policy without first defining, in precise and sometimes painful detail, the problems we鈥檙e trying to solve. We can鈥檛 move forward meaningfully without articulating where we鈥檝e been. As the great scholar Hannah Arendt wrote, 鈥淲e humanize what is going on in the world and in ourselves only by speaking of it.鈥 With the book, I want to offer some language that can help people talk to鈥攁nd, more importantly, with鈥攐ne other, offering words that might bring just a bit more humanity to the story we鈥檙e writing together.